#41 - Hon Vincent Tarzia, Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services of South Australia, on his Journey into Politics and leading with passion, drive and purpose.

Vincent Tarzia is the Minister for Police, Emergency Services and Correctional Services of South Australia, appointed in July 2020. He was elected to the South Australian Parliament as the Member for Hartley in 2014 and 2018. 

Since entering politics, Vincent has been the Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Entrepreneurship, Innovation and Business Start-ups, and Shadow Cabinet Parliamentary Secretary. 

In May 2018, he was elected as the 35th Speaker of the House of Assembly, the youngest Speaker in South Australia's history, serving until he was appointed Minister. 

Vincent is passionate about his local area, the eastern suburbs of Adelaide, where he has lived his whole life. He attended St Joseph's School Payneham and then Rostrevor College, where he was Head Prefect and Dux of the College. He has been active in many local community and sporting groups, including Neighbourhood Watch, the Campbelltown Rotary Club, Norwood Football Club and Payneham RSL. 

He went to Adelaide University and completed a Bachelor of Commerce, Bachelor of Law, and a Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice. Before politics, Vincent worked in the financial, legal and commercial sectors and served as a Councillor for the City of Norwood, Payneham and St Peters in 2010. 

Vincent has a genuine interest in his local community and is passionate about making South Australia more lively and prosperous. He wants real action to relieve the cost of living pressures, create more local jobs, deliver better frontline services and provide opportunities to get ahead. 

In this episode, we deep dive into Vincent's journey and passion for the community, why he entered this world of Politics, his main driver and purpose, how he manages his work-life balance, what his day as a politician looks like, and all the challenges he has faced since entering politics. 

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Where to find Vincent Tarzia 

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• Website https://www.vincenttarzia.com.au/ 
• Phone: (08) 8365 1341 
• Email: hartley@parliament.sa.gov.au 

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Books mentioned on this episode: 

• Think and Grow Rich - The Original Classic - By Napoleon Hill 
• Determination, Dedication and Duty by Anthony L Wege

Transcript

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I synergises and welcome back to another episode of The creating synergy podcast. My name is Daniel Franco and today we have the honorable Vincent Tarzia, are on the show. In July 2020, Vincent was appointed the role of Minister for place emergency services and Correctional Services of South Australia where he still resides to this day. It was elected to the South Australian Parliament as the member of Hartley in 2014, and again reelected in 2018. Since entering politics, Vincent has been the shallow Parliamentary Secretary for entrepreneurship, innovation and business startups and Shadow Cabinet parliamentary secretary in May 2018. He was elected as the 35th Speaker of the House assembly, the youngest speaker in South Australia's history, and served up until his appointment of becoming minister. Vince is passionate about his local area, the eastern suburbs of Adelaide where he's lived his whole life. He attended St. Joseph's Payneham and then Rostrevor College where he was head prefect and dux of the college has been active in many local community and sporting groups including the Neighborhood Watch program, the Campbelltown Rotary Club, Knollwood football club and pioneer Marcel. He went to Atlanta University and completed a Bachelor of Commerce a Bachelor of Law and a Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice. Prior to politics, Vincent worked in the financial, legal and commercial sectors, and also served as a counselor for the city of Norwood. Payneham in St. Peter's in 2010. Vincent has a genuine interest in his local community and he's passionate about making South Australia more lively and prosperous. He wants real action to relieve the cost of living pressures, create more local jobs, deliver better frontline services and provide many opportunities for all to get ahead. In this episode, we deep dive into Vincent's journey and his passion for the community why he entered the world of politics and his main drivers and purpose in his life, and all the challenges that he's faced since entering politics. If you love the episode, which I absolutely sure you will, be sure to hit subscribe button and check us out at Synergy IQ Comden au and synergy IQ on all the social media outlets. Cheers. So welcome back to the creating synergy podcast. My name is Daniel Franco, your host and today we have the honorable Vincent Tarzia. Minister for Police Emergency Services and Correctional Services. Welcome to the show.

Vincent Tarzia: 3:01

Absolutely, Daniel, thanks for having me.

Daniel Franco: 3:02

It's a pleasure that you could take the time to jump on a podcast so I really appreciate you being here. My absolute pleasure. You know, I'm going to start off a little bit differently. You might have seen in the news recently that Adelaide has been boasted number three most livable city in the world. So I'm going to start off with a very Adelaide type question. What school did you go to? I went to

Vincent Tarzia: 3:27

primary school into St. Joseph painting and then I went to Russia College. Excellent and there from 1999 to 2004

Daniel Franco: 3:35

Probably my biggest rival with the same Michaels

Vincent Tarzia: 3:40

same office in Sacred Heart Yeah, exactly. But I had a lot of friends that went to say Mokou so most of them tender okay.

Daniel Franco: 3:48

And this is why this is this is why this is such an Adelaide question because we're all kidneys your Adalet so you were ducks to the school at Rose true but that's not a not a bad feat.

Vincent Tarzia: 3:59

I also had a bad year level

Daniel Franco: 4:03

I do know some guys in your year level

Vincent Tarzia: 4:06

but no we obviously value the the opportunity to have a good education you know coming from that post World War Two migrant generation my family always instilled the the value of hard work and getting a good education so we tried to work very hard and we were we were rewarded that that year but I really did enjoy my time at Rostrevor and develop many lifelong friends many of whom I still keep in touch with today so yeah,

Daniel Franco: 4:37

what what sort of drove you at that age to say you know I want to own it achieve owner put all my all my efforts into my schooling do the best I can it was there. Like was there an ultimate goal?

Vincent Tarzia: 4:50

Yeah, the motto if any rush ever boy would know Palmer ante reward to the one who earns and that was also that school was also developed. by the Christian brothers said and Ross and bless him and Ross, I should say, and the value of, you know, helping others wherever you can. It was always instilled in us, but also to make the most of the opportunities that you've got. So that was something that always resonated with me from a young age and, and one that I continue to try and promote. So, you know, we're very grateful to be living where we are in Australia, we've got great opportunities. So I think it's incumbent upon us to do the right thing, and not only help yourself, but also help your fellow human wherever you can, as well.

Daniel Franco: 5:35

Yeah. Just I want to get into your goal setting, you know, from a young age, did you have it in mind earlier, that you wanted to get into politics. So

Vincent Tarzia: 5:48

I was always the kid growing up that did have a strong sense of justice. I was always the kid that did a lot of public speaking and debating, like to argue, point, my parents will tell you young age, it's the Italian in you that also, I think, always willing to do the best that you that you could and make the most of the opportunities that you've got in life. My parents drummed into me pretty early on. And I think I was also the person who's very social like to get out and about in my family had always been involved in good community causes what was the local the telling club or the local Rotary Club and so certainly saw myself long term going into a profession, an area where you were able to help other people. Yeah. So and then I think, you know, through throughout time, the way you just meander and try different things, I ran for the Norden Panem St. Peter's Council when I was quite young. And that would have been maybe 23. Yes. And you got that roll. Yes, I ran for the Mainland's Trinity. Or there were seven candidates. I was lucky enough to win that election. But that was local government elections are really grassroots. And basically, you start with zero votes. Yeah, you go out, you pound the pavement, you knock on doors, and you try and convert votes at the doorstep. So that's, that's really raw democracy right there. So I really enjoyed that. But also, when you had the opportunity to be a council, I enjoyed helping people that was a good taste, if you like of, of local government, and then the opportunity came up, but to run in state politics, and we've gone from there. So local government is certainly the first real taste of, of politics for me.

Daniel Franco: 7:27

What did the community see in the young Vincent Tazio? What were you saying? When you're knocking on it?

Vincent Tarzia: 7:33

It was definitely definitely a contrast. I think I was up against a couple of incumbents who had been there for a long period of time. So when you are a bit younger, and you're out there, and you're knocking on doors, the first question often some people ask is okay, so what political party? Are you? Are you aligned with you? And at that stage, you know, I certainly ran as, as my own person running my own good local campaign, you know, so that was an issue that came up. But you're right, there aren't that many young people in politics. So there is almost this cynicism, or skepticism, sometimes, you know, why is this young person all of a sudden knocking on my doors, but it was, it was definitely worth every minute, I really enjoyed it. And being able to help people at that local level, I think has been enormous value.

Daniel Franco: 8:22

So at that point, you've, you've been elected in, and that way you thought this is the career that I want to I want to go down,

Vincent Tarzia: 8:31

I think, you know, early on, you talk to some community leaders and political leaders, and you're this younger person, and they look at you and they sort of say, Yeah, local government is a good place to start. So I did, yeah. And we were successful enough, very grateful for that, and the support of the community there. And we went from from there, but local government is certainly a good a good opportunity, good way to get involved in your local community. See if you actually like it. I mean, and we sort of get into state politics in just a short while, I'm sure but, you know, you know, being an elected member, you are, you are public property somewhat. Most people have your mobile phone. They're not afraid to call it every day of the week. You know, so it's, it is it is really quite relentless. It can be quite, I suppose, it can really set lots of your time, and you've got to be really cautious and responsible and really weigh things up, you know, in terms of work life balance. Yeah. But it's a seven day week. Job

Daniel Franco: 9:35

it would be i i keep going back to the mindset thing. I remember myself when I was 23 years old, I wasn't not even remotely interested in politics or anything like that. And it seems to me is you've made a choice to obviously want to give back to the community which is admirable in itself, but to be almost in the spotlight where so scrutiny can start getting thrown your way. Why? What, what drove you to that decision of wanting to go down that path?

Vincent Tarzia: 10:08

I think it's all it's always about, you know, weighing up, what you're doing, and you've got to take the good with the bad and certainly much more good is a great opportunity to end in quite a privilege and honor to be an elected representative. People have elected you, they said, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm going about my day to day business, but I want you to represent me and advocate for me, and certainly the issue was local government, or state government. So that's a real honor and privilege, we think about it. So I was just determined to work hard every day and, and do what I could to to improve my local area, or whether it's a local council ward or now, now state. Now, it's a real privilege and honor to be able to serve and you do have to have the calling for it. It's it's not for everyone's be very clear. Yeah. And it's not necessarily what some people might think that, that, you know, it's not about prestige, or about other awards. It's hard work. It's a real privilege, and I enjoy every minute of it. But you know, there are also some challenges there, too. So it's, it's, it's tough work.

Daniel Franco: 11:08

We'll beat the level. And go back to from the Norwood Payneham. St. Peter's Council, you've moved on to the member for Hartley.

Vincent Tarzia: 11:18

Row. Yeah. So my first state election was in 2014. So I became the candidate in about 2012. And if we go back a little bit before that, obviously, I had graduated from Rostrevor. So he didn't put behind us, but school behind it went to uni, or did law and commerce. So I've specialized in, in commerce in corporate finance. And that would have been about, say, first degree 2007, secondary 2009 And then graduated, and became fully fledged in the law in 2010. So there's this thing called the GFC, you might have remembered it, I do not. But I bought a house just before they go. The right thing. But I was lucky enough to get a bit of a footprint and work in the funds industry for a while, which I really enjoyed. And I was certainly one of these young professionals who, because the market was tight, and the GFC obviously hit when it did. The job opportunities were quite tight, I think I can remember, you know, sending out about 40 or 50. CVS, I do remember jumping on a plane going into state just to try options over there. Because it was quite a tough market around that GFC year it yeah, a lot of people, if you look at, you know, commercial law firms, you know, your merchant banks, your private equity firms, a lot of these firms, they certainly weren't hiring, they'll do more firing and hiring in some cases around that time. So it was a tough market. And it's so so worked out that, that we we got a job working, working here, and at the same time always had that passion and that interest for politics. So in comes the campaign, as the 2014 campaign, and people will often think that political candidates get looked after but in actual fact, you've actually got to build your own team. Often, the party party was somewhat healthier, but the party will have to fundraise for a local seat. So it's quite tough, you know, you've got build your own team fundraise at the same time, pound the pavement, knock on doors, social media, interestingly enough, I think if I look at the elections, we've got one in about nine months time 2022. If you go back 2018, social media was probably 60% relevant, I reckon. Social media is 95% relevant to what we've just gone through 100%. And if you went back to 2010, local governments, a lot of people went on social media at all. So you know, and that's the the nature of politics means that things keep changing, the text got to keep changing, and people have to keep up with that as well.

Daniel Franco: 13:58

Yeah. So what goes on your your kind of goes on in your head, or you think, King on in this legal world? I'm interested in politics, when the when does the decision come that I'm going to run like so? And what is that drive that makes you

Vincent Tarzia: 14:15

think you've always got to have the calling for it, you've got to enjoy helping other people. And you've got to have philosophies that align with it political, political party. I think local governments also good taste. Also some of the leaders around you, you know, are you is this kid who's 23 at the time is he actually prepared to do the work, because as we know, you always need to be lucky on these things. But what I've learned is number one is rock up and do the work. You've got to do the work before all else. So we're lucky enough to win that election and very grateful for the support of the community. And then the stars aligned and the party asked you if you want to run for this seat and at that time, my family had always been in and around that area. I'd always been around that area. It was a community that I knew and grew up with and went to school and all the rest of So, we worked out quite well. And we were fortunate enough, lucky enough to win that seat in 2014. But if you go back, you actually in political parties, you often have to win your own internal battle. So you've got to run up against other candidates in your own party before you can run against the opposing party, believe it or not, so. And that was a that was a battle of three. And that would have been in about September, October 2012. So it's a lot of work. When you look back and think of how hard you work. You know, it's a, and it is a lot of hard work. And somewhat risk. Getting back to the candidates thing, same time. A lot of candidates, people don't realize they've actually got to have a job during the day with the bill. Yeah. And before, you know, so this is on top of your as on top, are still working as, as a lawyer working around the clock, when I was a steak candidate for a long period of time, where you're trying to do some, you're doing some door knocking in the day, and then at night, you're trying to do some work to try and keep some money coming in. So it's a tough, it's a tough balance.

Daniel Franco: 16:06

So for the young people come through, or even anyone who's thinking about this career, what did they see in Vincent Tazio that they said, Yeah, this is the guy that we want.

Vincent Tarzia: 16:15

I think he says, don't run against me, that's. But what do they see, like they probably saw, like many of our young people, you know, drive and determination and some ambition, but also going to have to call it a calling to, to be in it for the right reasons to want to help people ultimately,

Daniel Franco: 16:33

and we help people in what way the very the Christian,

Vincent Tarzia: 16:37

look, we help people in many ways, if we were talking about the operation, this weekend, we get into the ministry about what we do there. But you know, we're obviously, at probably the biggest, you know, operation in terms of what the state what the country has gone through at the moment, as Police Minister, for example. We work hard day and night to make sure that we give Seipel you know, the tools and the resources that they need to keep us safe at the moment. So you know, you've got to have that, that calling, you've got to understand that there'll be a hard days and challenges along the way. But ultimately, what drives you inspires you is being able to, I think help people improve your local community, your state country, but also make sure that you're giving people opportunities, whether they be in health or education, or otherwise, just making our area the best that it can be. To live in to grow up into start family. Brilliant. Yeah.

Daniel Franco: 17:31

For the community. I love it. Yeah. So in July 2020, you're asked to become the Minister for Police Emergency and correctional services. And you've taken that on in the middle of a pandemic. How did that? How did your

Vincent Tarzia: 17:49

so how did you handle that choice before that? So it came into government in March 2018? Sorry, actually, yeah.

Daniel Franco: 17:55

We missed your mouse. If

Vincent Tarzia: 17:56

you want to be speakers. Yeah, absolutely. Of course, I'd love to be speaking. It's quite an honor. Honor. Are

Daniel Franco: 18:01

you the youngest? Yeah,

Vincent Tarzia: 18:03

I reckon I would have been the one you want. So and that's quite an honor thing as time youngest in the Commonwealth. And traditionally, the role of speaker would, would usually not always, but will usually go to someone who's been in the park for an extended period, a long period of time, often one of the most senior roles. So that came with challenges. You know, John Howard, on said to me, when I asked you, if you got any tips for a young politician, he said, Vincent, be humble, you'll never go wrong with a bit of humility. And I really listened to that. And I tried to be as humble as possible. But I also had a lot of reading, and learning, you know, basically got to know the Standing Orders inside out. And it's a it's a job where you're, you're film, every minute recorded, what you say is written down forever. And so you can't necessarily unsay that, which is challenging. It's not for everyone. It's a skill set that is, takes a lot of time and you know, continue time to develop. So I really enjoyed being speaker the house, you're the spokesperson there. And you also have the great ability to talk to talk to people when you're representing that the parliament effectively so really, really enjoy that. But then in July of 2020, we're just

Daniel Franco: 19:20

on being the speaker. Sorry, if I could jump on did being the youngest. Did that. Was there any adverse reactions to being

Vincent Tarzia: 19:29

really because I still had a bit of time under my belt so that I think that helped, but at the same time, you're dealing with people that speculate they've been there longer than you, you probably have seen more parliamentary practice longer than you. So of course, again, humility never hurts. So I made it very well known that I was going to keep my head low, work very hard. Take it all in absorb. Plenty of people will give you advice. You sort of just got to work out which advice to take and not to But it was it was hard to lifeless hard work. But I really enjoyed the challenge. And sometimes and what I've learned you, you deal with this, I'm sure all the time. But without, without that challenge, you don't grow. So it was probably the best thing at the time that ever happened to me. I think when we did transition into the ministry, again, I know the better Minister having been a speaker, because you are across those standing orders, you've dealt with both sides of parliament in ways he wouldn't have before. So really enjoy the experience.

Daniel Franco: 20:30

Beautiful. Congratulations on that thanks party life, it's obviously propelled you to where you are today. Being in the minister position in the middle of a pandemic. digit, you're almost like a deer in the headlights at that point where you've walked in and everything's going on, you know, when you start a, when you start a new role, you know, you sort of sit back, you learn, you gather enough information, I've

Vincent Tarzia: 20:57

learned that you've got to love your fate, is whether we like it or not, there's going to be challenges that that have come and that will keep coming. So you got to just embrace those and do the best that you can and let it just let it wash over you. When the people often wonder, you know, how much time did you have between being told to be a minister and actually being sworn in? I probably had about 48 hours. So it's, it's tight. And you know, for some people that can be quite overwhelming. Because Absolutely, you're put into an area where necessary, you might have a good general idea as to what's going on, but you didn't have probably wouldn't had a specific specialist knowledge, necessarily so. But again, you know, growth is good, really enjoying every second of it. But yeah, there was a lot of reading to do, let me say, folders and folders and folders that you had to learn in a short period of time. Obviously, I put a lot of pressure on myself as well, because you want to do the best that you can a lot of people who go into politics, they spent a long time in politics and they never have the opportunity, the privilege of being a minister. So I really wanted to make sure that you get across those briefs and do the best you can you do a good job as well.

Daniel Franco: 22:07

Absolutely. So in the time where we were turning on the news every day you saw you know, Premier Stephen Marshall, Nicholas Spurrier, grass Stevens, all speaking, addressing South Australia primarily, what was your role in amongst all that one? Oh, yeah, sure.

Vincent Tarzia: 22:25

So, and we were talking today about the the extra promise that the government has made for this budget about getting more extra officers 114 140 pesos, getting more cops back on the beach is a great thing. So. So obviously, participating as a member of of cabinet is extremely important. But also, like you said, having good relationships with our key decision makers as well, making sure that the police got the resources that they need, make sure that we continue to take successful health advice. South Australia, in my opinion, has handled the pandemic better than any other state at the moment. Because we've listened to that health advice. We've made swift decisions that cabinet you'll find throughout this period continues to meet on a on a needs basis, but most of the weeks, still twice a week, as well as the varying other subcommittees that we have as well. So it's been a really cordial collegiate process has been no, Maverick decisions. It's been very calm and methodical and thorough and very proud of the team Premier. I would also, like you pointed out grant Stevens and professor of spirit as well, of course, supported by the cabinet and the government as well. So it's been a real team effort and the people of South Australia, you know, I've seen other jurisdictions that haven't handled endemic as well as us as Sure.

Daniel Franco: 23:44

The question I really want to get into there, though, is your role within that and being relatively or very new in your role? How did you how did you manage your day to days when, when all everything else was going on?

Vincent Tarzia: 23:58

Yeah, so it's busy. It's very, it's very busy. We've seen this week where we've seen, you know, arguably the biggest, serious organized crime operation by by Seipel regulations on that we've had that done amazing work, and that will continue to do or they continue to come out, but they've had that at the same time managing the COVID response, you know, whether it's many hotels or on our borders, or doing escorting residents, etc, that it's been, it's been a significant role to be played by South Australian police. But then of course, I also have my other roles too. So you know, it wasn't that long ago that we were talking about bushfire. Yes. Well, yeah. You know, we've got through the summer Touchwood. And then, you know, I go to the SES and look at what they're about to go through in winter, with rains and floods. So what what you learn is you learn to balance things I think better. Staying calm, staying humble. Getting all the details not making, you know, rash decisions. It's a continual learning phase, but yet lots lots to be done making sure that we support operational decisions by providing resources where we can, of course, also supporting in other government. Well,

Daniel Franco: 25:18

what does your day look like?

Vincent Tarzia: 25:19

What does my day look like? Depends on the day on the average day depends on the day. So this morning, you know, and people say, you know, how much time you spend the EO and minister office at the end of day, it's seven days a week. Yeah. And sometimes there's a bit of a, there's a bit of a mix. So today, we've come out of a parliamentary sitting week. So just so you know, one of the sitting days, which would have been Wednesdays that fed into Thursday, we finished at 130 in the morning, so that this is a classic example is good question. So we finished at 130 in the morning, just through habit, I sort of wake up at 530. Anyway, usually, I'll try and get some exercise to three times.

Daniel Franco: 25:57

I've seen you've been doing this. Your buttons are poppin. And you're

Vincent Tarzia: 26:03

raising money for headspace. Outside? Yeah, that's brilliant, I find those sort of challenges sort of force you to, to stop, drop, do some push ups, do some exercise, which is good. So but every day, you know, try and get some exercise in which I think is good. You're not helpful to anyone unless you were in good shape. So I think it's important for your mental health as well. Physical health. So mental health, especially Yeah, so try and do that. Get across all the media for the morning, that that the this morning, I had to do some media, for example, quite early, that would have been around eight o'clock, make sure we across all the issues of the day, read the paper. And then then you just go you got one speed, often lots of appointments and whether they be ministerial appointments or appointments back in the office is like a jeweler role. You've got to you've got to keep the local electorate happy. But then obviously, but you minister to these two, even before we came in here, stop to have a bit of lunch. The call came we need you to do media for this weekend. This weekend, long weekend coming up of road safeties remind people about staying safe on our on our roads. Because over the last five years, over the same weekend, we lost six lives on our roads, a bit of a reminder, a strategy that before I came in here. But waking up this morning, I wouldn't have realized that that's what I had to do. So you've just got to just soak it up and do the best you can. And what it's taught me is to be present. Yeah, being being present, I think is really important. can't worry about what you've got on an hour, two hours, three hours. When you're at the doorstep, people can see that. It's you've got to give your undivided attention to people as much as you can. Of course, I try and do that when I go home too. Yeah, very important, as well. So it's a No day is the same. It's your question, you might have some structure, but often you have to expect the unexpected, and you just have to roll with it, and do the best. So and then at night. Most people go home and put their feet on the couch and have a rest, maybe watch the crow's

Daniel Franco: 28:05

long sport. So I went to the game last night. I take the longest so well done.

Vincent Tarzia: 28:11

But then often the social side of things come come up. So lots of functions and things to go to look at this weekend. I looked at the diary and it's a long weekend. But I I think I've got some Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. So it's you know, it's pretty hectic, it is hectic. And there's always more reading to do. Yeah, yeah. And learning and learning, growth and absolutely all of that

Daniel Franco: 28:33

few questions in life that

Vincent Tarzia: 28:35

answer your question? Well, I'll

Daniel Franco: 28:36

draw a few questions. Family time, when you must have a very resilient wife. That's a

Vincent Tarzia: 28:44

very, very, very lucky to have my beautiful watching what we were expecting our first child in October, I did know that congratulations. You're about halfway through the pregnancy now. So very, very well done forward to that

Daniel Franco: 28:54

is a follow up question to that. Do you tend Are you aiming to take the foot off the pedal when the child comes along? Oh,

Vincent Tarzia: 29:01

I actually haven't had any any leave since becoming a minister. So I probably will take some paternity leaves would expect very title to Yeah, but very supportive, very supportive wife and I think electric to people, you know, on the street, they, I suppose they've watched the transition of you know, sort of incent younger politician to now come into fatherhood. And you know, they've been very quite supportive in that role to say, you know, make sure you have strike a good balance and you create time for family time for your wife. So that's very important. So yeah,

Daniel Franco: 29:32

you're not going to get these bag I've got two young kids myself nine and seven. Now, but he just it the time just flies is and it's the best time in your life. Right. So yeah, as you said, Be present. Being present in the everyday scenario at work. If you we've all been you know, I run my own business, you've you know, you run a state almost. There'd be times where you're Phone rings or you get a text message or an email or something that pops through where it completely wipes you off your perch, and where you're standing at that particular time. How do you stay present in those?

Vincent Tarzia: 30:11

That's really it's really good point. And it's certainly nothing I studied. But over time, I've learned to adopt some strategies. So for me, if that really gets quite stressful, I think exercise is always good. Yeah. learning not to make decisions in anger or in stress. I think that's to sit

Daniel Franco: 30:29

with. Yeah, absolutely.

Vincent Tarzia: 30:31

And let it pass a bit of meditation,

Daniel Franco: 30:34

also, meditation app or anything like that a

Vincent Tarzia: 30:37

lot from time to time, but sometimes, yeah, sometimes just having a bit of a bit of quiet time or like to just walk around the block. Yeah, is good when it gets into those high pressure situations. Try and do a bit of reading. So been at the moment, I've been sort of just reading about some of the stocks, what you learn Mike's really, Seneca a bit of that, all of that, although, what you learn, you know, politics have been around for a long time. And you know, even 2000 years ago, politicians were making similar but different decisions, different different plagues, pandemics, but very similar, in some cases, similar stresses. So it's a lot to be learned from history. So I do like, you know, watching learning machine, that's what I'm saying is always is always a podcast or right. Yeah, Netflix, special, special, especially you can watch. So

Daniel Franco: 31:34

how do you make time for that? If you're working till 130? In the morning? When does sleep come? In fact, how many hours of sleep do you get?

Vincent Tarzia: 31:40

Like I, I don't get all that much sleep. But the sleep that I get? I think it's very, very good. It can be anywhere from sort of five to eight hours, depending on on the night, but I try to get to bed early.

Daniel Franco: 31:52

How do you switch off? Is there a routine you take? Or the exercise is good? Yeah. So if you exercise in the morning, though, how do you switch off at night? That night? Like is it? Is it? Is it like in a hot cup of tea? Or is there something that

Vincent Tarzia: 32:06

I think I think a bit of quiet time with my wife, my puppy, the little miniature Labradoodle, Howard is about two years old. So going for a walk with life and the puppy is good, better TV better, you know, I love love all kinds of different sport, love watching anything. So be in a better mood when it's a cause of winning games. But yeah,

Daniel Franco: 32:27

you're gonna be in a bad mood for a few years. And how do you manage your like, because everyone, at some point has has had their energy drained or and if you're not getting the sleep that you you know, you're not getting those six to seven hours of sleep per night, and the phone calls and emails this relentless pressure of of the world, which feels like it's constantly after your opinion, seeking your advice, wanting you to speak when? How do you manage your energy levels? I know that we can always talk about exercise keeping that but is there is there moments during the day where you go off and just have some quiet time or is there you know, when you might sit in a room and meditate for a minute Is it is it due including

Vincent Tarzia: 33:13

I think, you know, staying fit and healthy is very important. Watching what food you put in your mouth and making sure it's the right fuel is very, very important. Coming back to those fundamentals, drinking little water getting the rest you can. Some days, it'll be a relentless day. And there might be two or three functions in the night. So you know, I am guilty of having the odd power nap. to that. But I think just being able to put the phone away, yeah, 10 minutes or whatever. And sometimes you just got to realize that if things are building up, whatever you got to be president, look after yourself first because it is a profession where people can be consumed. You look in recent times, a few politicians have bowed out because the stresses got to match or the the antagonism of some other rival groups has been too much. So you do have to look after yourself want to play that long game, not only for politics, but for life after politics, too. And

Daniel Franco: 34:05

so for the would you advise people to get into politics?

Vincent Tarzia: 34:09

Well, it's a it's a rewarding profession. As I said, I really enjoy it, I find it very worthwhile, but it's not for everyone. So just like, not everyone can be a doctor or an accountant or a lawyer so But I think if your heart is in the right place, and you want to make a difference, and you want to help people, then it can be very rewarding as well and challenging. So I've loved every minute of it. And I'm very grateful to be in a position that I mean,

Daniel Franco: 34:32

if also you you've said it a few times now that you've got this desire to help and give back and community and you can do that through creating your own business right and you have the smarts then to have gone out and potentially started your own whether it be legal floam or or you know gone into entrepreneurship and culture and business and giving back in that way. Is there any reason why that you didn't decide that that's

Vincent Tarzia: 34:55

I feel like my my thirst outside my my jobs that I had in uni and things like that. But my first if you like office job, believe it or not was, you know, reading the financial review, studying companies looking at value and all that sort of thing. So I really enjoy that sort of side of thing. And I work with a number of investors so, so somewhat I look at the work I did in commercial laws, mainly commercial, I came very much from the private sector, and I'll probably go into the private sector after, as well. So that's the beauty, I think of our political system. You know, we've got doctors, teachers, nurses, farmers, lawyers, rarely too many lawyers. You know, we've got a really wide variety of business, people have skill sets there, and that's what makes our democracy, you know, great that that diversity. So, yeah, it's a good thing.

Daniel Franco: 35:51

You just mentioned that you might go back into the private, what is your what's your ultimate goal, he,

Vincent Tarzia: 35:56

oh, I think you've got to take it day by day. If you had to look into a crystal ball and said, you know, Vincent, you're going to be elected in 2014 2018, you're gonna have a really, really tough election campaign after that you're gonna become a speaker, and you're gonna become a minister in 2020 2020, you know, it probably wouldn't be the way that most people would have anticipated. So what I've learned is that you just got to work hard, every day, be grateful, do the right thing. And opportunities will come. So you've got to take it day by day, politics is a very volatile thing. But I think at the moment, state governments doing a very good job, you look around Australia, I believe that government and the government's left and right side of politics have been rewarded for keeping Australian states safe. South Australia, we've been kept safe, our economy has been kept strong. I think the government's doing very well, we'll get rewarded. But it better take politics day by day. Absolutely.

Daniel Franco: 36:58

Ultimate goal for your career.

Vincent Tarzia: 37:00

As I said, very happy being so nice

Daniel Franco: 37:02

that you you're playing that safe. Thank you.

Vincent Tarzia: 37:05

Honestly, if you had looked at I'll give you an example. I mean, like in the 2018 state election campaign, I think doing really well had no candidate come up against us thus far. And then, late that year, before the election came up, I had a very high profile independent, you know, come up to me, and that obviously, was a very hard for slog campaign, you know, just shows you how quickly politics can change. And vice versa, vice versa, things can continue to change that fast. So what I've, what I've learned, though, is work hard every day, do the right thing, embrace opportunities as like, they come. Yeah. You know, hopefully, it was integrity. Yeah, absolutely. And integrity that you hit the nail on the head integrity, and politics is probably your most important asset. Now, once that's Once that's taken a look at governments over the years, once once that core integrity has been taken, you know, you might as well pack up do something, yes. So really important that thing, we work hard, do the right thing and see what happens. We're very happy at the moment and enjoying every minute. It's a real privilege. I know people, it's a bit cliche, but it's a real privilege and honor to be able to serve in a cabinet this part of history of his time. I mean, we haven't seen anything like the COVID 19 pandemic, in South Australia, Australia ever. You know, it's it's a really, it's a really significant time in our history. And I'm very proud and happy to be part of a team that's helping to, you know, steer, steer the state through these, these challenging waters. Yes, they are, you know,

Daniel Franco: 38:40

it's a it's you're right, it is a privilege. And congratulations to you and the team, what you've done, been able to do thus far. There's a lot of naysayers out there, who are not necessarily in the sense, criticizing everything, but knowing that every decision you make there is going to be a naysayer. How do you and the team manage that? I think you always

Vincent Tarzia: 39:07

try and get all of the information that you can try and get the best information that you can. If you look at what we've done as a state, we've acted upon the best health advice, and we've acted upon that bias. But like you said, you're never going to be able to please absolutely everybody. And that's why they get the best information, the best advice that you can get, you've got to make the best choice you can with information given to you you know, it's some. Unfortunately, you're always going to have someone here or there might be unhappy, but you've got to consider the greater good.

Daniel Franco: 39:40

Yeah. How do you choose who gives you that advice?

Vincent Tarzia: 39:44

We just get it from the best experts that

Daniel Franco: 39:48

will alternate alternative opinions on the matter.

Vincent Tarzia: 39:52

Yeah, and you're right. Sometimes if you don't like that advice, you can get other as well, but I think you've got to make the judgment call. Find that discretion to who is the best advice, get the best advice and make the corner you're going to make the right decision all the time? Well, you're going to make mistakes. Fine, but you've got to just own that. Do the best that you can. Absolutely. And you know, that's even on a local level. You know, people love upgrading roads, better to what they hate roads. They want, you know, car parks and certain car parks, but to what they don't want trees taking the man. So you know, is there's, there's always two sides to these items. But you just got to be the

Daniel Franco: 40:34

best that is there interesting. Is there any more similar scenarios where you would see that you would see people calling for one thing, but then the moment you do that all the time? Yeah, all the time.

Vincent Tarzia: 40:44

And it's and it's and it's a judgment call. And then often, you make that decision. And then what you realize is, you won't always get a thank you for doing the right thing. But tell you what, if you upset someone, you get the feedback. And in today's day and age, that feedback can be readily made available. So you know, 20 years ago, politics, politicians might do the six o'clock news, seven o'clock news might do the 730 report, then guess what, I go to bed, read the paper the next morning, social media is very much changed that so can be quiet, quite relentless.

Daniel Franco: 41:18

Absolutely.

Vincent Tarzia: 41:19

That's not for everyone.

Daniel Franco: 41:20

No, I'm gonna read you a quote, read by Prime Minister of New Zealand, just enter. And she, she said, I think she even tweeted this. One of the criticisms I've faced over the years is that I'm not aggressive enough or assertive enough. Or maybe somehow because I'm empathetic, it means that I'm weak. I rebelled against that I refuse to believe that you can not be both compassionate and strong. In your role as a leader within this sector and government, how much emphasis Do you and the team put on that in the empathetic piece?

Vincent Tarzia: 41:57

I think it's a really good point, I would say, empathy and professionalism. You know, two of the most fundamental aspects of being a good elected member today, you got to be empathetic and understand that the needs and the desires of those that represent if you can't do that, then you shouldn't be in politics. And that's why it's I think it's really important. Even today, later this labor, it's afternoon this evening, I'll be out. I'm having a street corner me, and I'm still doing it. Yeah, I have to do it. No, but I'm out there doing it, you know, what's the right thing to do? You, you advertise it, you tell people you're going to be out there. And and and you put yourself in front of people, they can come they're making have their say they can talk to you, they can tell you what their concerns are, and their to listen, listen to what their concerns are. It's very, very important, and just cinders. Right. I've been lucky enough. But when I speak to head over to Wellington, that beehive their parliament over there. That's a great part of the ward. And you know, they've done very well, too, with with COVID. At the moment, you know, her leadership has seldom in good stead. But she's absolutely right. You don't have to be aggressive to be strong. So

Daniel Franco: 43:10

how much influence does the party or even all government politics, place on leadership and educating those who are moving up the ranks, putting time and effort. So I'll use an example we work in a world where leadership consultants, right we work in a space of culture, change strategy, and leadership being a really key integral part of driving those, those those topics forward. There's speakers out there in the world such as Brene, brown, so I'm in cynically, or the sort of educational where, where companies are spending hundreds of 1000s, if not millions of dollars, with the sort of leadership for the leadership programs, they see the private world see the advantage in upskilling there and developing their people. Therefore, and then, you know, therefore they see the results and growth of the business and profits and all that, in a government point of view. Is there a lot of effort and a lot of time put into leadership programs for yourself and those and the other ministers in the Premier?

Vincent Tarzia: 44:14

I think we're quite lucky now government, you've got people, I suppose at differing ranges in political, political life, in football teams, to other other organizations. So we do have some, some good mentors around us that are able to, to help but like you pointed out, a lot of it is also external. So there's, there's a range of there's plenty of opportunities out there want to better themselves, but I agree that it is important thing to invest in, in leadership. And whether it's how you communicate to your colleagues or to your voters, or to the media, I think it's always worthwhile to invest in in that.

Daniel Franco: 44:54

Do you place a lot of emphasis on yourself, do you talk about reading the stoics in that way? What is your idea of of a great leader?

Vincent Tarzia: 45:03

Yeah, well, I think it's very important to, you know, to self reflect and always analyze, you know, whether you're doing the right thing by by yourself and colleagues and electorate always good to reflect that self reflection, you know, every every day in after question time we'll go back look at the footage. So hey, do we do? Do we do that rise or anything we would have done better. I believe reporting is really important, especially as you get busier, too. So whether it's a local elected office or ministerial office, I think it's important to see self KPIs and benchmarks and, and monitor your progress and look at where you were three years ago versus now. And, you know, it's always about continuous improvement. Because if you if you measure those things, you get better outcomes. And I think it's very important, especially when you're such an important area, and you want the state in your local area to do well. So it's important to continually reflect and acknowledge and dissipate and improve.

Daniel Franco: 46:05

Is that something that you've seen a shift in, of light with, with the leaders in party at the moment, I think the, you know, Premier, Steven Marshall is very, very humble in his approach. Typically, what we have seen in the past, you know, I'm talking, I'm going back, you know, 1010s of, you know, 1015 years, and if not it, or even recently, I would say as well, where it's always sort of the labor versus the Liberal Party or Liberal Party versus Labour Party are, they're going to do this, or they're going to do that. And we all know that the great leaders just concentrate on what they're trying to deliver, right? At the moment, the way it's set up, you get for four years to deliver a deliver results you can then get reelected. At from a cultural perspective and change perspective, we know that things take a long time to change and turn around. So we're concentrating on the now or are we concentrating on the future? When when we're making decisions? In

Vincent Tarzia: 47:02

some really good question? The answer is both. I think you've got to face the immediate, short term reality of things. But at the same time, I think the public appreciate you having a long term, a long term perspective, because if you only make short term decisions, obviously that could be that could be bad. And the same thing if you if you only look at one long highway? Well, I think it was always going to be coming to, you know, if you if you if you only look long term, and you fail to address the here and there now that obviously that also has negative constant. Yeah. So you've got to look at both, you got to look at both. And sometimes that comes with challenges, because sometimes it will, it will, you know, some things require hard decisions that not necessarily are explained now. But people will reward you down the track, you look at, say John Howard, his career and his conviction that he had around gumballs, for example, as an example of that, you know, at the time, that was quite unpopular, but now probably more popular than than ever, and other other jurisdictions around the world, looking at Australian, what we what we did, still having those debates that we, you know, that we that we had, we were able to make hard decisions back then. So that's just one example. But whether it's some local projects or statewide projects, future industries, you know, these these, again, get into that I was talking about before. History is laden with examples through time of these of the the pressures, if you like, between the short and long term, so you've got to consider both. Yeah. Because you've got to get reelected. If you don't get reelected, then. Yeah, before for that. So do you make decisions based on getting reelected? No, I think what I'm saying is you've got to you've got to have an eye to the present, but also to the long term.

Daniel Franco: 48:44

Yes. Well, the camera is an interesting one. And, you know, to the case in point, but the paper in front of us here, today's paper was a drug bust. That's, that's coming. So again, congratulations for that. The biggest in the southern hemisphere, from what I understand, how did so many guns get in?

Vincent Tarzia: 49:04

Look, at the end of the day, you know, we're investing in cyber like, like never before, and we're doing a fantastic job. But what we saw this week was the biggest serious opera and organized crime busting staple in the country's history. So just shows you that police are doing a superb job and you know, they have saved lives not only through the the the alleged murder bots that have been prevented, but just by taking that amount of guns and also drugs off off the street. They've presented much devastation in 1000s of families right across the state as well.

Daniel Franco: 49:42

As a result of saying the depth of what was going on. Is there more emphasis now on trying to prevent that

Vincent Tarzia: 49:51

or prevention is an enormous part of what WhatsApp will do crime prevention, whether that is from the at the residential level, neighborhood watch all the way to preventing serious and organised crime three targeted operations, you're going to see this reported on for a long period of time. And I'm sure you know occupy the the headlines for a long time. But overall Safeway as I said, I couldn't be more proud of what they've been able to do to with the AFP and the FBI being able to pull this off amidst the biggest, you know, operation, pandemic COVID-19.

Daniel Franco: 50:33

So you are one of the younger guys in the team in the political time. Your connection to the Gen Y's and millennials would be seen more positively, I think you will have a, an understanding that that type of world they're really looking for futurists and environmentalists and people interested in social impacts? And, you know, what are you doing as a party and you particularly yourself into attract the votes because, you know, the they're, they're 20 to 23 year old, the people born from New 2000 onwards, a voting these days, and they are really interested in the subject. So, where are you guys thinking in this boat?

Vincent Tarzia: 51:24

Hey, look, yeah, absolutely right. And they communicate differently. And sometimes they communicate on different different levels, different channels, different apps, you know, who, if you look at, for example, recently, I would have had a crime prevention forum, we would have advertised that far and wide. But of course, there will just because of the nature of going to a forum, very hard to get these 1819 year olds to come and have a cup of tea and some scones and talk about coming driving in the street. But to do something like a politics in the pub event or, or something with some local sporting stars, some Instagram.

Daniel Franco: 52:03

So you got to get really innovative in you do, you've

Vincent Tarzia: 52:05

got to change your approach, you've got to tailor your message very much. So for different for different segments, the segments for different aspects of the electorate, is what works for one might not work for another, so you do have to speak their their language. So which is challenging, but you're right, you know, climate change certainly resonated with more people. And that's why we're continually working at things like our own battery scheme, more energy efficient measures, and, and even on a local level. But I look in my local community, local park Campbelltown, recycled water, sustainable communities, things are very important with next generation coming through, but also having communicate on different levels, like Instagram, for example, Instagram, I'm finding is much more popular. With younger demographic, it's the way it is. gets back to what I was saying before, 10 years ago, 12 years ago, social media wasn't as relevant. But now it's becoming more and more prevalent, relevant, so it keeps changing, and it'll keep changing still. So we've got to stay apt and nimble and, you know, continue to tailor those those messages.

Daniel Franco: 53:14

Would you say that's the, from an innovation point of view, that's the the biggest area where you need to be front and center on is on social media.

Vincent Tarzia: 53:22

Definitely, social media has been becoming more and more more relevant. But saying that there's nothing more like going door to door, you know, eyeballing someone, ask them about their views. People always remember that. So you've got to do both. Got to do both. And it's sometimes it's easy to do one and not the other. But I think you've got to do guys.

Daniel Franco: 53:41

Absolutely. What does the next four years look like if, if

Vincent Tarzia: 53:45

the next four years so the way I would compartmentalize it, obviously, we're working night and day, hard to be the best minister that we can and best local representative from our community. Obviously, getting to the election, which is in nine months, time, nine months, probably eight days or something like that, that's coming here. So if you get reelected, and then obviously hope that the government is still in power, which I'm sure that we will be, and then continue to, you know, continue to drive the state forward. I think we're in a really fortunate position here where we've handled the pandemic, extremely well, one of the best places in the world. In my humble opinion, recently, we will make water the most livable city in Australia, third best in the world after he was Auckland and suffer. You know, so we've got a lot to be proud of, there's a lot of gains to be had. And I think we should certainly look to promote the state as that. And we've got a great opportunity to grow and for the state to prosper, which will mean that our people will continue to prosper for the long term as well. So it's a really exciting time to be in South Australia. Whether in your business or politics or in your community group. We're doing some great things and it's a real exciting Adding prospect I'm very much bored.

Daniel Franco: 55:03

Do you think we'll live or take on the Sydney and Melbourne of the world,

Vincent Tarzia: 55:07

I think will be will be different. Sydney and Melbourne, the world and like, like I just pointed out, you know, we're the most livable city. Yeah, from a livable point of view. Do you think a business necessarily it's a competition, but I tell you what people, no states that she especially Victoria, I've had a tough, a really tough, but we can't be complacent. We work really hard with our people here to to, to have what I think the best of all worlds here in South Australia, but we've got to keep keep working on it. And that means making sure that we work hard for community, the state, making sure that our politic politicians make good decisions, good long term decisions for our for our state boards. So we were in a really exciting time. Our state is a great vibe, your own business, I hope that you're doing well. But it's some way we can certainly see the light at the end of the tunnel is going to be some uncertainty, of course. But I think we're in a really exciting place here in state.

Daniel Franco: 56:03

I look personally from a business point of view, we've doubled in size in the past couple of months. Like it's just the phone is ringing off the hook. So we couldn't be happier with with where we're going. I think it's up to you guys now to make sure we stay open and we can keep continuing this growth pattern for all not you know, from our understanding jobs is or an all time low from any point

Vincent Tarzia: 56:27

we're doing extremely well. We've got many vacancies still ployment unemployment rate is dropping the first time and more people are coming in late and you know, I'm sure that trend will continue. What's

Daniel Franco: 56:39

funny is the house down the road for me just sold for a record price. And we've we've asked Who who is who's purchased that. And it's a family from Sydney moving over and there's a set of very properties booming? Well, their answer was we're going to move to Adelaide, obviously from the livability aspect. But we don't need to work in an office anymore. So we can come to Adelaide, buy a home that's, you know, couple 100 meters from the beach and work and get paid. Sydney writes in Adelaide and live in Adelaide. So it is drawing a lot of people to the

Vincent Tarzia: 57:14

to the site in the state of moments. Absolutely.

Daniel Franco: 57:18

What's something unique about you that no one might know?

Vincent Tarzia: 57:25

It's a very, very good question. I'm not really sure No, I work hard every day. I do enjoy quiet time when I can get it which not very often

Daniel Franco: 57:34

but good scotch or

Vincent Tarzia: 57:37

I would say during during the week, I don't really drink much at all, because you're always having to continually be on guard and having to remember new things very quickly last minute. So I do try and eat clean and drink clean. But you know, every now and then obviously being in South Australia, I don't mind. Nice red good red wine. I live in McGill. And obviously, the McGill lecturer mine, some of my colleagues that started in McGill not in the process. I do enjoy, you know, a nice read, if I'm celebrating something but I don't don't drink much at all I do try and stay clean, and exercise and keep healthy.

Daniel Franco: 58:16

For we get into the quickfire questions as we wrap up. Is there any key messages or anything that you'd like to share?

Vincent Tarzia: 58:23

No, thank you very much for the opportunity. And congratulations on what you've been able to do. I think it's an excellent initiative. But if anyone wants to get more involved in the political process, you know, my doors open, they're more than happy to. I'm more than happy to have a chat with them. But otherwise, I want to thank the community for helping us to keep people safe in this climate, then very excited about what I'm sure will be a prosperous state moving board.

Daniel Franco: 58:50

Brilliant. Now we have some quickfire questions. You're not done just yet. These are a bit of fun. Sure. But we are big readers here at creating synergy. Synergy IQ. You did mention you're reading some stuff on the stoics right now, if you visit our title to

Vincent Tarzia: 59:04

them not not? Not necessarily. It's one of the things that you can just go back to from time to time, whether it's meditations or otherwise.

Daniel Franco: 59:12

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is a fantastic book for anyone who's interested in stoicism. Absolutely. What self development book do you believe stands out more than the rest?

Vincent Tarzia: 59:26

I think from an early age thinking Grow Rich was given to me and it's not necessarily one, you know about building wealth, but also I just think about, you know, setting your goals and that sort of thing. You know, visualizing what you want to do and working towards it, that sort of thing. So I think that was probably a good fundamental, fulfilling yourself some mantras Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think that was certainly one that worked. worked well. I don't get to read as much as I would would like, but I do like listening to things and watching things. So I'm probably going to be listening to more podcasts and things moving forward. Let you know Not less in terms of books. I've got one here to to the termination, dedication duty. This was given to me recently by the new the CFS we obviously had a worst bushfire season ever. 1920. So, as a minister for emergency services, you know, we've got 10s of 1000s of volunteers, you know, some of these men and women, they give up, you know, years and years of their life. Some have done over 60 years of service. It's absolutely incredible. So, enjoying getting into that at the moment talking about what they were able to do in terms of helping in 2019 the bushfire season.

Daniel Franco: 1:00:33

So it's a real life account. Yes. So Anthony winning wedge,

Vincent Tarzia: 1:00:38

the wedge wedge, yes, I also determination, dedication, Judy. But of course I do like reading books about politics and business from from time to time

Daniel Franco: 1:00:51

autobiography from a political nature that you would recommend.

Vincent Tarzia: 1:00:56

I mean, I've loved reading books about John Howard Malcolm Turnbull recent times course Christopher Pyne, you know, obviously, sort of Hartley's completely in the Status seat of STEWART So for for a long time I worked with with Christopher as well. But his his his books, excellent. Howard's turmoils. Of course, I love watching anything about Roman history, or, or, you know, famous battles throughout, you know, throughout time. I do like watching sporting documentaries, wherever I can. The last dance was excellent about joy. It's unbelievable. Watch, but you know, Americana, there's one on Robbie budget at the moment. Yeah. So that I haven't gotten to so there's a lot of correlations between, you know, sport, work oh, in life. So it's

Daniel Franco: 1:01:47

even just going back to the last day, and she just has Jordans mentality? Yeah. In this. He's, he's a winner. Just next level was a pretty incredible. What's the best advice you've ever received?

Vincent Tarzia: 1:02:00

I think, honestly, you know, work hard and stay humble. I think that's that's probably the best advice I mentioned. What I found is that a bit of humility can never hurt you. No, absolutely. You know, there'll be there'll be days when you're doing extremely well, and you think nothing can come at you. And then something will happen. Yeah. But if humility, I've learned is always a always a good thing.

Daniel Franco: 1:02:21

And you may have already answered this question from, from your love of the Roman Empire. But if you had access to a time machine, where

Vincent Tarzia: 1:02:28

would you? Look, I think I'd go back to my, my childhood, so I could spend a bit more time with my grandparents, when one thing you realize is, you never get that time back with family. So that would be something that I'd love to love to do.

Daniel Franco: 1:02:45

Absolutely. Yeah, that's, yeah. Take me back there to please. One superhero power. So

Vincent Tarzia: 1:02:52

I think I think the power to fly would be great. And I could spend more time with my, my wife, and my puppy, and also my constituents as well.

Daniel Franco: 1:03:01

So you get home quicker. Absolutely. Cool. And last, but not least one of my favorite questions of this show, what is your best dad joke? Well,

Vincent Tarzia: 1:03:10

it's interesting, you raise it because my wife's pregnant. And she's due in late October. So I'm going to have to learn some bad dad jokes. I'm

Daniel Franco: 1:03:17

sorry. I'm assuming I totally

Vincent Tarzia: 1:03:21

don't real y have that many at the momen. But recently, we were talkin about fees and charges and he fee was actually the same fe as the number it was a 3095 fee. And I was actually doing he report on 3095. Five dou le A, one of the police offi ers actually said to me this way or that was a good dad joke. So there you go. realizing it. So t at's sort of that's the stage of life that I'm

Daniel Franco: 1:03:45

no, brilliant. You need to get more Niki bag.

Vincent Tarzia: 1:03:48

Yeah, definitely. To get some pointers off,

Daniel Franco: 1:03:51

I've got a few don't worry about that. Thank you very much for your time today. It's been absolutely wonderful speaking to you. Obviously, you're on LinkedIn, where can people sort of follow you on social

Vincent Tarzia: 1:04:05

media, social media forums, so Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, the office or or otherwise, around the place face to face I thank you very much been an absolute pleasure and keep up the great work.

Daniel Franco: 1:04:17

Thank you very much, much appreciated. Thanks, guys. Take care.

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